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Liberator Online, Volume 9, Number 11
June 23, 2004

In This Issue:

The surprise libertarian moment in this week's private space travel triumph.…. Supreme Court takes ominous step closer to national ID.…. The acclaimed "Jim Morrison of comics" is an outspoken libertarian.…. Exciting new book by Michael Cloud now available.…. New: "Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminars now scheduled across America!.…. Neal Boortz sends *thousands* to take the World's Smallest Political Quiz -- in one day.….Mary Ruwart is asked how we should deal with foreign threats, and if the free market is responsible for sweatshops and brutal child labor...... Michael Cloud explores Harry Browne's Futilitarian Argument Against Government.....

All this and *much much more* in the world’s largest-circulation libertarian publication...

THE LIBERATOR ONLINE

June 23, 2004
Vol. 9, No. 11
Circulation: 63,992 subscribers in over 100 countries

Published by the Advocates for Self-Government
Edited by James W. Harris, mailto:james@TheAdvocates.org
Created by Paul Schmidt and James W. Harris
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"The World's Smallest Political Quiz is the single best outreach tool we libertarians have!"

-- George Getz, Libertarian Party press secretary
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CONTENTS

PRESIDENT’S CORNER

* "Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminars scheduled across America
* Michael Cloud's brand-new book Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion

WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE ADVOCATES

* Neal Boortz sends *thousands* to World's Smallest Political Quiz
...and more news and exciting opportunities for libertarians!

GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, UNBELIEVABLE NEWS

* Paul Pope: Libertarian Comic Book Creator Extraordinaire
* Supreme Court Limits Right to Silence, Moves Closer to National ID
* First Private Space Venture Ends with Surprise Libertarian Message
* Heinlein: "The best thing about space travel..."

ASK DR. RUWART

* How do we deal with foreign threats?
* Is the free market responsible for sweatshops and brutal child labor?

PERSUASION POWER POINT #165
* Harry Browne's Futilitarian Argument Against Government
by Michael Cloud

PRODUCT REVIEW
* "Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion" by Michael Cloud. Brand-new book published by the Advocates!
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PRESIDENT’S CORNER

Dear friends,

I'm excited to announce that the Advocates' acclaimed "The Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminar will be coming to nine major cities across America between July and October!

This seminar -- which teaches libertarians how to become more convincing, compelling communicators -- has received rave reviews from attendees. This enthusiastic response has encouraged us to make it available to more people than ever before.

And if you register now, you can enjoy big savings -- up to $100 off admission! -- with our Early Bird discounts. (More on this below.)

The weekend-long seminars will give you the opportunity to learn communication skills that you can put to use at once. You'll learn the very best ways to communicate the ideas of liberty from experts who have spent decades learning and teaching exactly that. This is especially useful in this election year, a time when Americans are more open than any other time to learning about new political ideas.

Here's the schedule:

* Arlington, Virginia (July 31-August 1)
* Denver, Colorado (August 7-8)
* Los Angeles, California (August 21-22)
* Dallas, Texas (August 28-29)
* Framingham, Mass. (September 18-19)
* Seattle, Washington (September 25-26)
* Columbus, Ohio (October 2-3)
* San Francisco, California (October 16-17)
* San Diego, California (October 23-24)

For more information about "The Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminars, or to register, call (800) 932-1776. Or visit: www.TheAdvocates.org/seminars.htm

The seminars will be hosted by Michael Cloud. Michael is a pioneer in the field of teaching powerful libertarian communication -- he's been doing this for three decades. He's an acknowledged master. We're excited to bring his expertise to libertarians around the country.

Guest presenters joining Michael at different seminars are: Harry Browne (two-time Libertarian Party presidential candidate), Mary Ruwart (author, Healing Our World), Bill Winter (past editor, LP News, now Director of Communication for the Advocates), and Carla Howell (chair, Committee for Small Government). I'll be a presenter at many of the seminars, as well -- and I hope to see many of you there!

You'll learn a veritable treasure chest of powerful, proven communication techniques. How to avoid common communication mistakes; how to make people more receptive to libertarian ideas; how to give the best libertarian answer to questions; how to open closed minds; how to use "Intellectual Judo" against big-government supporters; how to answer common objections to libertarianism; how to give more effective speeches; and much more.

The seminar is fast-paced and intensive, exhilarating and inspiring. You'll improve your communication skills almost immediately -- and you'll have fun, too.

The seminars will be especially helpful to candidates, party spokespeople, letter-to-the-editor and op-ed writers, media coordinators, and outreach activists. In fact, anyone who wants to persuade others to embrace libertarian ideas will benefit immensely. Whether you're brand-new to libertarianism or have been a libertarian for decades, you will leave this seminar a far more effective, persuasive "salesperson" for the ideas of liberty.

The seminars are scheduled to run from 9:00 am-6:30 pm on Saturdays, and 9:00 am-3:30 pm on Sundays. Again, for more information about "The Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminars, or to register, call (800) 932-1776. Or visit:
www.TheAdvocates.org/seminars.htm

EARLY BIRD SAVINGS OF $100: Admission for "The Art of Libertarian Persuasion" seminar is $250 at the door. However, for those who sign up for ANY seminar by midnight July 15 the price is only $150! Please take advantage of this limited-time offer!
www.TheAdvocates.org/seminars.htm

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New Michael Cloud Book!

"Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion" is Michael Cloud's long-awaited new book. I'm proud to announce it is published and distributed exclusively by the Advocates.

It's a wonderful book, an intriguing mixture of inspiration, libertarian arguments, and outreach nuts-and-bolts wisdom. There's nothing else like it.

I'm tempted to say a lot more about it, but instead I'll just direct you to the Product Review at the end of this issue, where we've provided more details and ordering information.

Or if you already know you want it, you can order it here:
http://www.theadvocates.org/liberator-online-special.html

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Welcome to 227 new Liberator Online subscribers this issue. Thanks for joining our subscription "family" of over 60,000 liberty-loving readers in over 100 countries!

Enjoy this issue of the Liberator Online.

-- Sharon Harris, President mailto:sharon@TheAdvocates.org
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WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE ADVOCATES

* Boortz Boosts Quiz -- Thousands Respond: In his Townhall.com column, national talk radio star (and libertarian) Neal Boortz wrote: "There’s a Quiz located on the Internet which helps people figure out if they may, in fact, be more libertarian than conservative or centrist. The Washington Post has said that this quiz “has gained respect as a valid measure of a person’s political leanings.” Take the test. See where you stand." Boortz gave the URL of the World's Smallest Political Quiz. The result? TEN THOUSAND Quiz takers in 24 hours -- almost three times our current daily average! Thousands of people were exposed to the unique libertarian resources at our site. Neal is a longtime friend of the Quiz and the Advocates. Thanks, Neal -- for once again helping thousands of people learn more about libertarianism.

* Want to quickly learn the basics of libertarianism -- from some of the best minds in the liberty movement? Want to help a friend quickly learn about libertarianism? Check out Libertarianism.com, from the Advocates:
http://www.Libertarianism.com

* Communication Bargain of the Century: You can get the great 3-tape audio course "The Essence of Political Persuasion" from us at the GIVE-AWAY price of only $7.50 - that price includes handling and First Class mail so you’ll get it right away! We’ve put over 6,000 sets into the hands of libertarian activists in the past few years! To order, call us or see:
http://www.theadvocates.org/epp-redirect.html
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GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, UNBELIEVABLE NEWS

by James W. Harris

Paul Pope: Libertarian Comic Book Creator Extraordinaire

Paul Pope is a world-renowned comic book writer and artist, fast becoming a pop culture icon. Indeed, in 2002 GEAR Magazine puts Pope at # 11 in their annual TOP 100 list of "the most exciting people, places, and things on the planet," calling him "one of the most consistently inventive comics artists of his generation." In France he's been called "the Jim Morrison of comics."

He's a leader in the growing effort to push comics forward as an art form as worthy of respect as music, film, novels and poetry. As Pope says: "The art form of comics itself, like all others, is elastic, open-ended, and expansive. The comics medium has the power to contain and express all human thought, feeling, and experience."

Publisher's Weekly has noted that Pope is "the rare comics artist who can move between the opposing worlds of self-published, underground comix and mainstream, commercial comics, always producing personal works of imagination with extraordinary graphic skill."

Pope has put his own unmistakable spin on such classic comic book characters as Batman, Spiderman, the X-Men, and Captain America. He has also self-published his own critically-acclaimed non-superhero comics including the surrealist/science fiction series, THB. Pope's graphic novel Heavy Liquid, a science fiction noir tale, made Publisher's Weekly list of the Top 100 Books Of 2001.

And how about this for libertarian coolness? In 1998 Pope wrote and drew a remarkable "what if?' story in "The Batman Chronicles" comic book. Pope imagined "the Berlin Batman" (by day Baruch Wane, wealthy Jewish artist in 1930s Berlin). This German anti-Nazi version of the Caped Crusader speaks admiringly of... the great libertarian economist Ludwig von Mises! The Berlin Batman attempts to stop the confiscation of Mises' papers by the Nazis (a real-life tragedy). Batman says this about Mises: "I once met him, and I've read his work. He's a brave man to oppose the party in these barren times." And at the end of the story, Robin writes: "Ludwig von Mises escaped to the United States when the Nazis ransacked his apartment in 1938...Von Mises was working on a new book which challenged Nazi social and economic policies. They slowed him down, but they couldn't stop him. He continued work on a book which was eventually published in '49, called 'Human Action', now considered one of the great libertarian works of our times… Von Mises' anti-authoritarian ideas were first a threat to the Nazis, then the Soviets, and to all increasingly regulatory governments in our own times. He was against socialism in all its many forms. He was an advocate of individual liberty, free speech, and free thinking..."

Surely one of the great libertarian moments in comics history!

In a 1995 interview for the online comics site The Podium, Pope stated his political views in no uncertain terms:

"I'm against all anti-liberal, autocratic, authoritarian forms of government, including fascism and socialism, all of which are essentially the same thing in the end -- slavery and death.

"I'm a libertarian, or 'classical liberal', and that means I'm in favor of freedom of speech and of the press. I believe in private property and its necessity for a prosperous and safe economy, and I'm against censorship, taxation, public schools, welfare (another form of taxation), military aggression, and all tax-subsidized institutions and organizations…. I'm not a right-winger and I'm not a left-winger. I consider the right and left both to represent the same thing -- government control."

Paul Pope is one of the latest additions to our ever-growing "Libertarian Celebrities and VIPs" Web page. You can check out others at the site:
http://theadvocates.org/celebrities.html

(Sources: Paul Pope's web site:
http://www.paulpope.com
The Podium interview:
http://members.aol.com/podium1/pope.html

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Supreme Court Limits Right to Silence, Moves Closer to National ID

"Your papers, please." In movies, that chilling demand from government agents is always a giveaway that they are tools of an oppressive state.

The U.S. took an ominous step in that direction this week, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the government can arrest and punish people whose only "crime" is a refusal to give police their names during a murkily-defined legal police stop.

The narrowly-passed 5-4 decision held that people have no constitutional right to refuse to tell police their names if police merely have a "reasonable suspicion" that a person may be involved in a crime. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority, said that demanding a name during a police stop "serves important government interests" and dismissed privacy and civil liberties concerns by saying the request is "so insignificant in the scheme of things."

Civil libertarians strongly disagree, arguing that giving police the power to command a person to disclose his name under such circumstances is unconstitutional -- a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment protection from unreasonable searches, and of the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

Tim Lynch, an attorney with the libertarian Cato Institute, put it nicely: the Supreme Court has "ruled that the government can turn a person's silence into a criminal offense... Ordinary Americans will be hopelessly confused about when they can assert their right to 'remain silent' without being jailed."

It is not a mere academic argument. Opponents fear the decision will encourage police to instigate far more encounters and searches, particularly on roads, at airports, and in inner cities, based on flimsy and deceptive accusations. The decision almost certainly guarantees that vast numbers of Americans will face such stops and demands. It will be easy for police to enter names into massive, ever-expanding government databases for further searching, much as is done routinely today with drivers licenses at car stops.

As Justice John Paul Stevens wrote in a dissent: "A name can provide the key to a broad array of information about the person, particularly in the hands of a police officer with access to a range of law enforcement databases."

And finally, this decision inevitably moves us much closer to a mandatory national ID, to be carried at all times and shown upon request. After all, the logical next question after "What's your name?" is: "Can you prove it?"

Or, as those totalitarian governments say in the movies: "Your papers, please."

(Sources: Associated Press: http://apnews.myway.com//article/20040621/D83BGOU80.html
Supreme Court decision Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of the state of Nevada, 03-5554:
http://www.supremecourtus.gov )

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First Private Space Venture Ends With a Libertarian Surprise

This may just be the most important news event we've ever written about in the Liberator Online.

As you may know, on Monday June 21, 2004, history was made when the first privately-funded space ship, SpaceShipOne, successfully flew into space. (And it did so, incidentally, at a fraction of the cost of government efforts: The $20 million SpaceShipOne program cost only about 5 percent as much as a single NASA shuttle mission.)

It is impossible to overstate the importance of this glorious achievement. At last, we may be on the verge of seeing space exploration liberated from the government -- which has monopolized it and crippled it for decades -- and opened to the private sector, where the same ingenuity and innovation that has given us so many other low-cost, high-tech miracles can bring the unimaginable benefits of space travel to mankind.

Praise to Burt Rutan, designer of SpaceShipOne; to Paul Allen of Microsoft fame, who financed the effort; and to Mike Melvill, the 62-year-old test pilot who flew more than 62 miles above the earth. And to all others involved in this historic feat.

The next step for the team is to see if SpaceShipOne can carry three people into space twice within two weeks. If so, they will win the $10 million Ansari X Prize, funded by a group of private space enthusiasts.

But regardless of whether SpaceShipOne wins or not, it has already kicked the doors wide open for private space exploration. At least 27 other organizations are competing for the Ansari X Prize. We are now officially at the dawn of a new era for humankind: an era of mass space travel, exploration, and manufacturing.

UPI reporter Irene Mona Klotz caught the essence of the story:

"It is not for the money these teams have labored for years to come up with a better way to travel to space; it is to demonstrate -- and perhaps eventually cash in on -- the fact that there may very well be a better, less-expensive, more-accessible way to travel to space than what government-funded programs have been serving up for more than four decades."

And so did this story in the Christian Science Monitor:

"When SpaceShipOne split the clear California skies to cross the threshold of space Monday morning, the rumble that echoed down toward the Joshua trees of the Mojave Desert was no mere sonic boom. It was a seismic shift in the history of human exploration... [T]his much seems certain: Space is now open for business."

Finally, there was this wonderful libertarian moment immediately after the flight. While astronaut Mike Melvill stood atop SpaceShipOne in triumph, a member of the Western Libertarian Alliance organization handed Melvill a large poster reading:

"SpaceShipOne
GovernmentZero"

Mike held it up for all to see, and gave a "thumbs-up" signal to the crowd.

It was a great libertarian touch to one of the great liberating events in history.

(Here's a link to a photo of Melvill holding the sign. Photo by Bill Hunt. Scroll to bottom of page to see photo:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/spaceshipone/flightday.html )

(Sources: Christian Science Monitor and UPI:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0622/p01s02-usgn.html
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040604-121009-7639r )

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"The best thing about space travel..."

"When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere."

-- from "The Notebooks of Lazarus Long" (1978) by Robert Heinlein (1907-1988), pioneering libertarian science fiction writer.

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"Good News, Bad News, Unbelievable News" is written by Liberator Online editor James W. Harris. His articles have appeared in numerous magazines and newspapers, and he has been a Finalist for the Mencken Award, given by the Free Press Association for "Outstanding Journalism in Support of Liberty."
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ASK DR. RUWART

Dr. Mary Ruwart is a leading expert in libertarian communication. In this column she gives readers "short answers to the tough questions" that libertarians are frequently asked.

Dr. Ruwart's past Liberator Online answers are archived in searchable form at: http://www.TheAdvocates.org/ruwart/categories_list.php

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How do we deal with foreign threats?

Question:

"I agree that the world would be a much better place if we could all just "get along." But what do you do when there are people dedicated to your annihilation?"

My short answer:

"You can destroy them, deter them, or win them over. In real life, the first is often attempted, but rarely accomplished. Indeed, the backlash from the attempt is often worse than the original threat. Our “War on Terror” may fall into this category.

"Deterrence buys time, sometimes enough time for an enemy to self-destruct (e.g., the “Cold War” and the Soviet Union).

"Winning over the enemy is the preferred solution, since it creates allies and is the least costly, both in dollars and lives. Free trade is a great peacemaking vehicle, since it intertwines economies and makes war unthinkable.

"The military-industrial complex has incentives to discourage such peacemaking and does so by telling us that our enemies can’t be reasoned with. Perhaps this is why President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us that “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence” by this group."

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Is the free market responsible for sweatshops and brutal child labor?

Question:

"We had a free market during the Industrial Revolution.The government didn't get involved in the economy, yet people died by the dozens in coal factories and children were enslaved in sweat shops." That's what my teacher says. What do you say?"

My short answer:

"Before the Industrial Revolution, we created far less wealth per hour than we do today. Consequently, life was dangerous and hard, whether in the coal mines or on the farms. Children worked in both places -- or went hungry.

"The Industrial Revolution made wealth creation more efficient in free market nations. Eventually, children were able to go to school instead of work, since their parents could more easily support them.

"Nations without free markets became the "Third World." Children living in these countries today often have the same choice our great-great grandparents did: work or starve. Even when outlawed, child labor still continues there because it’s a necessity for survival.

"The free market and the Industrial Revolution made childhood, as we know it today, possible. It will do so for the rest of the world, too, if adopted."

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Got questions? Dr. Ruwart has answers! If you'd like answers to YOUR "tough questions" on libertarian issues, just email to Dr. Ruwart at:
mailto:ruwart@theAdvocates.org

Due to volume, Dr. Ruwart can't personally acknowledge all emails. But we'll run the best questions and answers in upcoming issues.

Dr. Ruwart's outstanding books "Healing Our World" and "Short Answers to the Tough Questions" are available from the Advocates:
http://www.TheAdvocates.org/Merchant2/merchant.mv
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PERSUASION POWER POINT #165

Harry Browne's Futilitarian Argument Against Government

by Michael Cloud

America is a "Can-Do" culture. We are pragmatic and practical people. Tinkerers and inventors. Practical scientists.

Whatever we can do, we must dare. Settle the West? We must. Build the railroads? We must. Soar the skies and even land on the moon? We must. This Yankee Ingenuity, this Can-Do practicality is the heart of free enterprise, the backbone of business.

It’s natural that Americans would try to bring this very trait to government. Politician after politician calls for running government like a business. Why can’t we make government more responsive, more efficient, more effective, more user-friendly? Why can’t we run government like a business?

In his 1995 book Why Government Doesn’t Work, Harry Browne shows why government can never operate like a business.

Businesses cannot force people to give them money. Governments do.

Businesses cannot force people to do things their way. Governments do.

Competition keeps businesses responsive, efficient, effective, and customer-friendly. Government is a monopoly. It forbids competitors.

Bad businesses fail. Bad governments grow.

Government is not subject to competition, consumer choice, and the need to continually do better.

Free enterprise is based on the Utilitarian Premise: Whatever can be done must be done. The marketplace demands that businesses strive to make things cheaper, easier to use, and better.

But the Utilitarian Premise has a corollary-- the Futilitarian Premise: Whatever cannot be done must not be done.

Whatever government cannot do, it must not do.

Whatever government cannot achieve, it must not attempt.

Whatever government is incapable of, it must leave alone. Must not raise taxes for, spend money on, or create programs for.

Government doesn’t work.

Government programs are ineffective. They don’t solve the problems they’re created to solve. They don’t produce the results they were intended to produce.

Government programs often make things worse for the people they’re trying to help.

Many government programs, while failing to accomplish their missions, while making things worse for those they’re aiming to aid, create new problems for these same people.

Why Government Doesn’t Work documents and demonstrates how and why government programs are inherently futile. They are ineffective and counter-productive. They are pointless. And they are expensive.

The Futilitarian Warning says to government: When what you’re doing doesn’t work, stop doing it. When what you're attempting has never worked, stop trying it. And stop taxing people for what did not, does not, and cannot work.

If "ought" presupposes "can." then "can’t" demands "must not."

If "government ought to" presupposes "government can," then Harry Browne’s elegant Futilitarian argument against government is the most powerful argument imaginable: it combines the moral and the practical case for radically slashing back government.

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Michael Cloud was voted the Most Persuasive Libertarian Communicator in
America and honored with the Thomas Paine Award at the Libertarian Party national convention in July 2000.

And he has a brand-new book available! See immediately below for details.
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PRODUCT REVIEW: Michael Cloud's great new libertarian outreach book!

"Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion" by Michael Cloud. 240 pages. Quality trade paperback. Published by the Advocates for Self-Government, 2004.

Do you sincerely want to convince others to become libertarians?

What if you could open closed minds? What if you could turn opposition and resistance into agreement and support for liberty? What if you could melt people's indifference and apathy toward freedom? What if you could develop a Midas Touch for liberty -- transforming person after person into libertarians?

Michael Cloud's Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion will take you a long way toward this.

Why isn't everyone desperately seeking freedom? Why are so many people indifferent? Why are many others opposed to liberty? And why have so many people just given up?

Because no one has opened their eyes to the possibility of liberty. No one has touched their hearts with the intense desirability of liberty. No one has reached their minds with the principled and practical wisdom of liberty.

Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion solves these problems. Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion gives you the keys to opening people's hearts and minds to liberty.

What You'll Learn:

* Why libertarians don't need "A Better Mousetrap." (p.23)
* What libertarians can learn from Mark Twain's Cat. (p.34)
* When impatience undermines libertarian progress. (p.52)
* How to gently dissolve many objections in 60 seconds. (p.63)
* Get people to "Push the Button" and become libertarians. (p.81)
* Treasure Map for finding people who urgently want freedom. (p.83)
* One deadly mistake almost every libertarian makes -- and how to avoid it. (p.96)
* "You know enough about libertarianism to buy it, but do you know enough to sell it?" (p.126)
* When to "Save Your Breath." (p.165)
* The Biggest Libertarian Communication Turnoff. (p.171)
* How to handle "The Toughest Prospects: Family and Friends." (p.185)
* Danger: "Counterfeit Libertarianism." (p.210)
* "The Unsettling Question Libertarians Almost Never Ask." (p.236)

And much more!

You will reap huge rewards from Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion. If you talk about libertarianism with your family, friends, co-workers, or neighbors, you will start seeing astonishing differences almost immediately. If you're a libertarian activist or leader or candidate for office, you will start seeing dramatic differences in your libertarian speeches, interviews, and conversations. Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion is for you.

Michael Cloud is uniquely qualified to unlock the mysteries of effective communication. For 29 years, Michael Cloud has studied, investigated, tested, and refined hundreds of different approaches to persuasive libertarian outreach. He's mapped the safest and best paths through the dangerous communication minefield.

Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion is the result. It will give you a head start. Turbocharge your libertarian conversations. So you can quickly and simply win people's hearts and minds to liberty.

Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion is a charming and very readable book. It's rich with new insights and outlooks, parables, one-liners, stories, unforgettable phrases, and power tools for persuasion. Much of this material appeared originally in different forms in the Liberator Online over several years, but it's all been rewritten, edited, improved, and updated. Plus the book includes three classic Cloud articles that have never appeared in any book before. These alone are worth the cover price!

Secrets of Libertarian Persuasion is published and distributed exclusively by the Advocates for Self-Government.

Want to learn more? Check these out:
* An interview with Michael Cloud about his new book:
http://www.TheAdvocates.org/secrets-interview.html
* A review by Bill Winter:
http://www.TheAdvocates.org/secrets-review.html

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